Comments on: What is the Criminal Justice System? http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html Welcome to the PDI Network, a collection of (hopefully) useful links for criminal defense investigators, especially those who work for indigent defendants. Sun, 13 Jun 2010 02:18:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: "hearts"H-town Cutie~ http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-109 "hearts"H-town Cutie~ Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:24:53 +0000 http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html#comment-109 Does your school have a resource officer? If yes then interview him, if not or as a second opinion call your local police dept. and ask if there's an officer willing to let you interview them. You also might want to try interviewing some of the local paralegals, and lawyers, have your questions ready and be prepared to either record or take notes quickly so they don't have to repeat themselves. I would think most of these professionals would be glad to help you out! Does your school have a resource officer?
If yes then interview him, if not or as a second opinion call your local police dept. and ask if there's an officer willing to let you interview them. You also might want to try interviewing some of the local paralegals, and lawyers, have your questions ready and be prepared to either record or take notes quickly so they don't have to repeat themselves. I would think most of these professionals would be glad to help you out!

]]> By: Anababy http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-110 Anababy Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:24:34 +0000 http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html#comment-110 By: Holiday Magic http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-112 Holiday Magic Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:42:02 +0000 http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html#comment-112 I'll get shot at by some Officers for this, but it seems like you have a very young police force? No? Rookie's will always go for the easiest pinches since they are too young and inexperienced to do any "real police" work. Another problem is that your departments management may not be recognizing their officers when they do make a good solid felony pinch, so they figure "what the hell am I killing myself for?" Add to that mix; the Defense Lawyers and Libby Judges that will throw out a good case on some stupid technicality anyway and you end up with a department that tackles traffic and jaywalking crimes because they are easy to deal with, write the ticket and you're done. (Most of the time) One more thing, check your departments pay scale and let me know how they fare with surrounding departments, if you-the taxpayer, are underscoring the pay rate at your department, you are going to end up with all rookies looking to break into Law Enforcement as a career, so you-the taxpayer, will get exactly what you are paying for, a VERY NEW and inexperienced public employee. Not saying all rookies are bad, just saying they do the job mostly by the book because they are still learning how much discretion they are allowed to have, always using the book is not a bad thing, but usually, It's not a good thing either. Now watch all the Rookies yell! LOL! I'll get shot at by some Officers for this, but it seems like you have a very young police force? No? Rookie's will always go for the easiest pinches since they are too young and inexperienced to do any "real police" work. Another problem is that your departments management may not be recognizing their officers when they do make a good solid felony pinch, so they figure "what the hell am I killing myself for?" Add to that mix; the Defense Lawyers and Libby Judges that will throw out a good case on some stupid technicality anyway and you end up with a department that tackles traffic and jaywalking crimes because they are easy to deal with, write the ticket and you're done. (Most of the time) One more thing, check your departments pay scale and let me know how they fare with surrounding departments, if you-the taxpayer, are underscoring the pay rate at your department, you are going to end up with all rookies looking to break into Law Enforcement as a career, so you-the taxpayer, will get exactly what you are paying for, a VERY NEW and inexperienced public employee. Not saying all rookies are bad, just saying they do the job mostly by the book because they are still learning how much discretion they are allowed to have, always using the book is not a bad thing, but usually, It's not a good thing either. Now watch all the Rookies yell! LOL!

]]> By: tigger http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-115 tigger Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:47:39 +0000 http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html#comment-115 I'm not sure what you are asking by "policy implications?" People can be found "not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect," and are sent to state-run hospitals until released when the staff there feel it is appropriate. Not sure if that is what you are looking for or not... I'm not sure what you are asking by "policy implications?"

People can be found "not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect," and are sent to state-run hospitals until released when the staff there feel it is appropriate.

Not sure if that is what you are looking for or not…

]]> By: Finn A http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-105 Finn A Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:53:02 +0000 http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html#comment-105 Australia's role on the British criminal justice system was mainly to alleviate the overcrowding in English prisons due to the enactment of some rather harsh, all encompassing, laws. The first fleet of convict ships arrived at Botany Bay (Sydney) on 20 January 1788. The last convicts to be transported to Australia arrived in 1868 in Western Australia. Much of this happened during Charles Dickens's lifetime, however it had nothing directly to do with his father's imprisonment. In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries about 60, 000 convicts were sent to the British colonies in North America (the US and Australia have a lot in common). When the American Revolutionary War brought an end to this the British Government was forced to look elsewhere. Australia was where the British established a penal colony (or colonies) to alleviate pressure on their own prisons. See the source below for a history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convictism_in_Australia As I understand the history of Dickens's childhood had nothing to do with Australia. John Dickens went to debtors' prison (in England) and so did the rest of the Dickens family (which was common - except for Charles). Charles was working at a warehouse near the present Charring Cross railway station which was near the debtor's prison. The money Charles earned (six shillings a week) pasting labels on jars of shoe polish paid for his way at the house of Elizabeth Roylance (a family friend). John Dickens latter got out of prison and paid his debts. See the source below for these details. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Dickens These two sources listed above should get you started on your research. Hope this helps and good luck on your assignment. Australia's role on the British criminal justice system was mainly to alleviate the overcrowding in English prisons due to the enactment of some rather harsh, all encompassing, laws.

The first fleet of convict ships arrived at Botany Bay (Sydney) on 20 January 1788. The last convicts to be transported to Australia arrived in 1868 in Western Australia. Much of this happened during Charles Dickens's lifetime, however it had nothing directly to do with his father's imprisonment.

In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries about 60, 000 convicts were sent to the British colonies in North America (the US and Australia have a lot in common). When the American Revolutionary War brought an end to this the British Government was forced to look elsewhere. Australia was where the British established a penal colony (or colonies) to alleviate pressure on their own prisons.
See the source below for a history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convictism_in_Australia

As I understand the history of Dickens's childhood had nothing to do with Australia. John Dickens went to debtors' prison (in England) and so did the rest of the Dickens family (which was common – except for Charles). Charles was working at a warehouse near the present Charring Cross railway station which was near the debtor's prison. The money Charles earned (six shillings a week) pasting labels on jars of shoe polish paid for his way at the house of Elizabeth Roylance (a family friend). John Dickens latter got out of prison and paid his debts.
See the source below for these details.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Dickens

These two sources listed above should get you started on your research. Hope this helps and good luck on your assignment.

]]> By: Change Now http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-107 Change Now Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:44:15 +0000 http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html#comment-107 The only reason I need is they are not citizens and are not guaranteed the same rights as citizens. Why can't you libs get that very simple concept? The only reason I need is they are not citizens and are not guaranteed the same rights as citizens. Why can't you libs get that very simple concept?

]]> By: Angie M http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-108 Angie M Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:33:13 +0000 http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html#comment-108 To me, human relations would be the best. Our purpose is to attempt to change attitudes and instill responsibility for personal actions. We can achieve these aspects through understanding the human psyche and applying known methodologies, such as cognitive behavioral therapy, within the judicial context. To me, human relations would be the best.

Our purpose is to attempt to change attitudes and instill responsibility for personal actions.

We can achieve these aspects through understanding the human psyche and applying known methodologies, such as cognitive behavioral therapy, within the judicial context.

]]> By: Patrick W http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-116 Patrick W Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:18:56 +0000 http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html#comment-116 By: kentucky girl http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-114 kentucky girl Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:37:56 +0000 http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html#comment-114 It was wonderful and effective. If you committed a crime involving violence you could be legally horsewhipped- publicly. It was a great deterent. If you comitted murder, kidnapping, rape, treason you'd be hung by the neck until dead,dead, dead. The Cops were free to beat the hell out of mouthy criminals and to teach them manners. The Police were feared and respected because they had real authority. ( which they often abused) Kids were taught to respect their elders and the police and the punishment for not vdoing so was severe enough so that they learned early, not to do such things. The few gangs which existed were all controlled by the authorities ( Boss Tweed, Tammany Hall, etc.) and were the forerunners of the protection rackets run later by the Mafia. A poor man had little chance in court against a rich man since everyone knew that the rich man's word was always better than the poor man's. A rich man could hit you to move you out of his way but if you were to hit him or push him you'd wind up in prison for battery. It was fun times indeed. The protections of the US Constitution existed for the upper classes only. It was wonderful and effective.
If you committed a crime involving violence you could be legally horsewhipped- publicly. It was a great deterent.
If you comitted murder, kidnapping, rape, treason you'd be hung by the neck until dead,dead, dead.
The Cops were free to beat the hell out of mouthy criminals
and to teach them manners.
The Police were feared and respected because they had real authority. ( which they often abused)
Kids were taught to respect their elders and the police and the punishment for not vdoing so was severe enough so that they learned early, not to do such things.
The few gangs which existed were all controlled by the authorities ( Boss Tweed, Tammany Hall, etc.) and were the forerunners of the protection rackets run later by the Mafia.
A poor man had little chance in court against a rich man since everyone knew that the rich man's word was always better than the poor man's.
A rich man could hit you to move you out of his way but if you were to hit him or push him you'd wind up in prison for battery.
It was fun times indeed.
The protections of the US Constitution existed for the upper classes only.

]]> By: DEE L http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-117 DEE L Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:17:16 +0000 http://www.pdinvestigator.net/what-is-the-criminal-justice-system.html#comment-117 -A system is a set of accepted societal norms which allow for the normal, efficient operation of a society with laws. -American CJ is a mixture of strengths and weaknesses, therefore the ever changing model of criminal justice shapes itself according to the practice, enforcement, and acceptance of laws...Our system resembles different facets of all of the models......remember that models are what other people think our system is like....so I guess you could call mine the "Universal Model of criminal justice." -Each section of criminal justice has its own unique set of resources that are not available to all the others (psychological, investigative, recruiting, operations, narcotics, detective, patrol, the courts, forensics, corrections...) -Ideology is a practice of labeling things that are closely related to politics or criminal justice, or it can be simply a way of thinking about something or identifying with something, such as saying one is "liberal" or "Right Wing." -Politics is a system of government practiced by the people of an area, enforced by "ideologies," and exercised by individuals having the power of the state. -A system is a set of accepted societal norms which allow for the normal, efficient operation of a society with laws.
-American CJ is a mixture of strengths and weaknesses, therefore the ever changing model of criminal justice shapes itself according to the practice, enforcement, and acceptance of laws…Our system resembles different facets of all of the models……remember that models are what other people think our system is like….so I guess you could call mine the "Universal Model of criminal justice."
-Each section of criminal justice has its own unique set of resources that are not available to all the others (psychological, investigative, recruiting, operations, narcotics, detective, patrol, the courts, forensics, corrections…)
-Ideology is a practice of labeling things that are closely related to politics or criminal justice, or it can be simply a way of thinking about something or identifying with something, such as saying one is "liberal" or "Right Wing."
-Politics is a system of government practiced by the people of an area, enforced by "ideologies," and exercised by individuals having the power of the state.

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